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A Naive Moron
added Sat November 04 2006 at 10:06 PM
As Christopher Johnson accused on Monday, I am an idealistic, naive moron. I still believe that the freedoms established by our constitution should be honored by our federal government. I still believe that the government was created by the people for the people and not by the lobbyists for the corporations. I still believe that our elected officials should be held accountable for their actions and should be open, upfront, and honest about what they do when representing us.

Please discuss political views with those that are older and wiser, but keep in mind that age doesn't necessarily equal wisdom and experience with the old ways doesn't mean knowledge of how we should handle this changing world. Many of our current leaders have shown that they don't understand new technology, which is how we end up with senators that proclaim that we're clogging the tubes of the internet by sending books (Senator Stevens, R-AK) or that we should disable and cripple promising new technologies because they are capable of being misused to break laws (much like guns, right?) when placed in the wrong hands (Senator Hatch, R-UT).

When voting for a political candidate, we need to look for fresh new blood from the next generation.


Michael McQuay says:
Considering people in leadership positions:

I must admit that it is interesting how God usually chooses older, almost dying men to be the prophet, not young blood. Maybe there is something to that...

posted Mon November 13 2006 at 6:36 PM

Jo-Pete says:
You're right, which explains why Joseph Smith was 14 when he had the First Vision. And why President Monson was first called to be an apostle at the age of 36. The Lord doesn't choose the oldest people to lead the church, he chooses the best people to lead the church, and then often extends their service through a long, productive life.
posted Mon November 13 2006 at 6:47 PM

Michael McQuay says:
How uncivilized...

Usually, Joe-Pete, Usually. It would only be too easy to make an incredible list of all the prophets and leaders who are much older than the two examples you sited.

Read my comments...then re-read them so you don't miss what I'm really trying to say. Usually, Joe-Pete, usually.
posted Mon November 13 2006 at 11:04 PM

Jo-Pete says:
Read my letter... then re-read it so you don't miss what I'm really trying to say.

I never said that old people are useless or that we should ignore them or even that they are unfit for leadership roles. What I did say is that "age doesn't necessarily equal wisdom." I am certainly glad that we don't choose our prophets based only on how old they are or how long they have been members!

I have actually been extremely impressed with the church's ability to seize new technologies and have a very forward-thinking stance on such technologies while at the same time holding to "traditional values" that so many other churches have abandoned. Unfortunately, the government has not always been so adaptable to new things.

Please don't compare our divine church leadership with our elected national government. How uncivilized.

posted Thu November 16 2006 at 12:31 AM

Jo-Pete says:
The average age of an incoming apostle is 45.4.

I calculated the average age of an apostle by calculating the average age of the quorum (including the prophet and counselors) at each year since 1835 and then averaging those averages. According to this method, an apostle is, on average, 59.5 years old.

Interestingly, apostles are, on average, younger than the current Senate (the average age of a senator is now 60 ).

If you want my source code to confirm my results, feel free to download it. Of course, even if there is a small error, it is clear that apostles are "chosen" at a much younger age than Senators are, and don't stay in much older than Senators do, in spite of the apostleship generally being a life-long calling.

It would appear that I can say that apostles are usually younger than senators.
posted Thu November 16 2006 at 4:27 AM


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